AKT wrote:So transit is available. Free shuttles from the malls will still exist to drop people off at the front door so they don't have to walk 20 minutes and wait for a regularly scheduled bus just as happens today at IWS. The statement was that there is no service. Thanks for proving it 100% incorrect.
The problem is, with all the traffic coming to the stadium primarily from North and West, those buses would have to share the road with a LOT of other people. The WH site is more centrally located and the traffic can be spread out across a greater area (and people can just walk from the core once their bus has brought them there.
justafan wrote:I do believe that the very first phase should be north south, however I am sure its going to be east west. A very big mistake.
Right now we have two express routes in the city, the east-west B-Line that is the most heavily used bus route in the city, and the relatively new A-Line that is sadly still underused even after nearly a year of service. I take the A-line a few times a week and most of the time there are 5 people or less on the southbound trip in the morning. There are often more on the Northbound trip at 5pm or so, but not once in the 100 or so times that I've taken this bus have I ever had trouble finding a seat. The B-Line is often packed, and it's one of the most frequent schedules of any city route. The first LRT route should go where the riders already are.
justafan wrote:
You quailified my point nicely thank you. 1 bus or 20 makes no difference there is bus service now and as required there will be plenty.
You also bring to light the single most important factor that has hampered this city in growth and prosperity over the past 20 years and the changing ecomony we have endured. When you have a City divided by as we call it a mountain and that citys population for sake of arrument is split 50% upper 50% lower and in its lack of wisom all the city councils have NOT addressed the north south transit problem how do you or any one else think that either the upper or lower will prosper to its maximum with such limitations?
justafan wrote:
I see this as opportunity while many see this as wasted tax dollors, lets face the facts and face them today rather the waiting another 20 some years. The lower City based on industry and employment is gone dead finsihed !!!
If you really want to help this City forget the stadium at WH accept all offers to clean up the brownfields through other means once thats done rush up to City Hall and pound your fist until they realize that moving people north and south in Hamilton is whats required to make both lower and upper prosperous.
Through other means? Companies have poisoned the soil and long ago moved or folded. The only other realistic means involve a large public expenditure. A stadium project can absorb and justify that kind of spending. What else could?
Right now it's far more attractive for developers to build residential and commercial on sites like the EM, or in Waterdown,
Ancaster, etc. If the public doesn't pay for the remediation, nobody will. Yesterday's Ticat offer doesn't cut it either. Did you notice they earmarked no money for remediation? A convenient omission.
Blogskee Wee Wee wrote:I don't think there is anything that can be done to convince people to take public transit to a game. The Ti-Cat fan base is currently made up, mostly, of people over 40 and those are not the type of people who will leave their car at home. It won't happen. People want to drive to games and this whole "if we build it here they will be convinced to take a bus" stuff is a pipe dream.
The key word is currently. What are people in 10, 20, 30 years going to think about it?
